Legislature(1999 - 2000)

04/06/1999 03:40 PM House HES

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SB 48 - STATE HEALTH INSURANCE                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 2024                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN DYSON announced the next order of business as CS For                                                                
Senate Bill No. 48(HES), "An Act relating to health insurance                                                                   
provided by and provisions relating to the Comprehensive Health                                                                 
Insurance Association."  He informed the committee that they would                                                              
go ahead and take testimony even though there is no quorum.  He                                                                 
will call Representative Green down when it is time to vote.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 2000                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DAVID GRAY, Legislative Assistant to Senator Jerry Mackie, came                                                                 
forward to present SB 48.  He told them that the sponsor statement                                                              
comes from the Alaska Comprehensive Health Insurance Association                                                                
(ACHIA), which was established in 1992 to provide a health                                                                      
insurance pool for individual Alaskans whose health condition was                                                               
considered uninsurable, or who could not otherwise find adequate                                                                
health coverage.  The legislation mandated that all providers of                                                                
health insurance in the state must participate in the pool.  The                                                                
association then makes health insurance available to Alaska                                                                     
residents who are high risk.  In addition to operating the pool,                                                                
the board of directors of ACHIA includes two consumer advocates.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRAY commented that two consumer advocates are not able to                                                                  
testify today via teleconference, but they have been very active in                                                             
the Senate in presenting the reason for this legislation.  The                                                                  
legislation also asks ACHIA to periodically report on the                                                                       
effectiveness of this pool in promoting rate stability, product                                                                 
availability, and affordability of coverage.  Senate Bill 48 is a                                                               
direct result of this effort by the association to make the program                                                             
work better and more efficiently; it is a relatively new program.                                                               
The legislation has the support of the Division of Insurance.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1924                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRAY stated that this legislation is trying to allow more cost-                                                             
effective plans for the individuals who get coverage under ACHIA;                                                               
better administer the program; allow flexibility in evaluating the                                                              
administration of the program; to simplify the administration by                                                                
decreasing the number of declinations required for eligibility; and                                                             
to make some other technical improvements to the program.  The                                                                  
legislation will allow the board to manage the ACHIA in a more                                                                  
cost-effective and efficient manner.  The legislation also brings                                                               
their program in conformance with new federal requirements                                                                      
particularly as it concerns portability of insurance.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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MR. GRAY informed the committee that a bill similar to this was                                                                 
introduced at the end of last session, so there was a vehicle                                                                   
during the summer the people involved in health insurance could                                                                 
look over the provisions and see what other improvements.  The bill                                                             
in front of them is the result of recommendations from that review                                                              
and it was reintroduced.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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MARIANNE BURKE, Director, Division of Insurance, Department of                                                                  
Commerce and Economic Development, came forward to testify.  She                                                                
informed the committee that the proposed legislation is the                                                                     
outgrowth of a lot of hard work by the members of the board of                                                                  
directors and the division, as well as the input from all of the                                                                
insurers who write health care in the state.  Every insurer that                                                                
writes health care has a vested interest in making sure this entity                                                             
is as efficient and effective as possible.  This mechanism is a                                                                 
last resort.  If people have a condition that precludes them                                                                    
getting coverage anywhere else, they can come to the ACHIA and get                                                              
coverage.  The program is not self supporting.  If it were, people                                                              
could get the insurance from the regular market.  It does however                                                               
provide a mechanism for people to participate in the cost of their                                                              
health care.  The premiums, which are about 175 percent of a                                                                    
standard premium, only covers about 20 percent of the cost.  "The                                                               
remainder is allocated to the insurers that write business in this                                                              
state on a percentage of premium.  If they write 40 percent, they                                                               
pick up 40 percent of the assessment."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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CO-CHAIRMAN DYSON asked if they write 40 percent of the policies in                                                             
the state, they get the opportunity to pick up 40 percent of the                                                                
cost of this.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. BURKE answered yes.  She continued saying they want to make it                                                              
as efficient as possible.  Costs are high because the people who go                                                             
into this insurance company have conditions such as hemophilia,                                                                 
where the drug medication alone can cost $4,000 to $12,000 per                                                                  
month; people dying of cancer, people who have terminal conditions,                                                             
and people seeking organ transplants.  It is not a mechanism for                                                                
people who are rich or poor; it is for people who get hit by a                                                                  
devastating illness and cannot get coverage.  Without this                                                                      
mechanism, they would wind up with Medicaid, and the state would be                                                             
picking up the tab.  It gives them dignity and a chance to                                                                      
participate.  With ERISA [Employee Retirement and Income Security                                                               
Act] and the self-insured plans being exempted, it is as fair as it                                                             
can be.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
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MS. BURKE explained because of existing statutes, the board must                                                                
use an insurer to provide these services, collect premiums, make                                                                
payments, and do all of the services of a normal insurance company.                                                             
They pay four times as much as the next highest state in this                                                                   
country which is $112 per person, per month for the administrative                                                              
services.  That is unconscionable, but the board has no choice.                                                                 
They want the flexibility to be able to go out and make a business                                                              
decision; to find a qualified administrator to provide these                                                                    
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. BURKE commented they also want to be able to make it less                                                                   
onerous to get coverage.  The two declinations required now means                                                               
two insurance companies have to turn the person down before he/she                                                              
can come to ACHIA.  If someone is dying of cancer, it does not take                                                             
an insurance company to tell him/her they are not going to cover                                                                
him/her.  The division strongly supports this legislation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN DYSON asked her if anyone opposed this bill.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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MS. BURKE said this legislation has been discussed for over three                                                               
years.  Originally it was opposed by Aetna when they insured the                                                                
state because Aetna would have had to pick up a portion of the                                                                  
cost.  Now Aetna is one of the companies represented on the board                                                               
and they support it.  She is not aware of any opposition to this                                                                
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN DYSON sent word for Representative Green to come down                                                               
to vote.  He noted that this bill also has a referral to the Labor                                                              
and Commerce Committee.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
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REPRESENTATIVE GREEN asked if this is picked up by the private                                                                  
insurance companies that'll be scattered over all insurance payers.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. BURKE answered that is correct.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN asked if she had any idea about how much this                                                              
would affect premiums.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. BURKE said the health care premiums in this state are roughly                                                               
$300 million.  The assessments that have been levied have been in                                                               
the range of $1.5 million.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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REPRESENTATIVE GREEN asked if high risk people are in a pool, and                                                               
each insurance company is assigned a certain number of those, would                                                             
it impact various health insurance companies negatively.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1436                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. BURKE said the ACHIA is actually an insurance company.  It                                                                  
collects the premiums and pays the payments for services.  This                                                                 
does not work like the auto pool.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN asked if that company is owned and set up by                                                               
all the other carriers.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
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MS. BURKE explained it was created by the legislature.  Clearly it                                                              
is not a money-making organization; it assesses what it needs to                                                                
pay the premiums.  The board of directors are made up of                                                                        
representatives of the companies writing insurance in this state.                                                               
It is in the best interest of every health care provider or every                                                               
insurance company writing health care to have this be as efficient                                                              
as possible.  Inefficiencies will cost them.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN asked how the company would be set up.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1329                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. BURKE replied that by statute there will be five insurance                                                                  
companies who are the largest writers of the state with two                                                                     
additional members who will be consumer advocates.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN wondered if company number six would be a part                                                             
of it.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. BURKE said the other companies would be a part of it in the                                                                 
sense that they pay their pro rata share.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN COGHILL asked if people are going to pay a portion of                                                               
the premium or the cost of health care.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
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MS. BURKE replied if he is referring to the amount the covered                                                                  
individuals pay, they pay premiums just like they would if they                                                                 
were insured by Blue Cross or Aetna.  She may have confused them                                                                
when she said they pay about 20 percent; by that she meant the                                                                  
total cost of all the covered services; their premiums only amount                                                              
to about 20 percent of that total cost.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN COGHILL wondered if the flexibility that the board is                                                               
looking for now is to go outside and look for other professional                                                                
administrative services.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. BURKE said that is correct.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN DYSON announced with the arrival of Representative                                                                  
Green they now have a quorum.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1191                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN made a motion to move CSSB 48(HES) from                                                                    
committee with individual recommendations and zero fiscal note.                                                                 
There being no objection, CSSB 48(HES) moved from the House Health,                                                             
Education and Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                

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